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		<title>By: MerkwÃ¼rdige Marktbefragung von Microsoft &#124; simflight DE</title>
		<link>http://www.simflight.com/2009/06/17/ms-rumor-mill-turning-again/#comment-5126</link>
		<dc:creator>MerkwÃ¼rdige Marktbefragung von Microsoft &#124; simflight DE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dumas schreibt auf simFlight.com einen interessanten Artikel, demnach einige GrÃ¶ÃŸen der Szene scheinbar dazu eingeladen wurden, an einer Marktbefragung von [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dumas schreibt auf simFlight.com einen interessanten Artikel, demnach einige GrÃ¶ÃŸen der Szene scheinbar dazu eingeladen wurden, an einer Marktbefragung von [...]</p>
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		<title>By: News Round-Up Week 25/09 &#124; simFlight.COM Flight Simulation News Source</title>
		<link>http://www.simflight.com/2009/06/17/ms-rumor-mill-turning-again/#comment-5108</link>
		<dc:creator>News Round-Up Week 25/09 &#124; simFlight.COM Flight Simulation News Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Microsoft befragt Spielebranche zu einem Flugspiel &#124; FSNews</title>
		<link>http://www.simflight.com/2009/06/17/ms-rumor-mill-turning-again/#comment-5103</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft befragt Spielebranche zu einem Flugspiel &#124; FSNews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the Box fasst die Situation ganz gut zusammen. Demnach wurden vor allem auÃŸerhalb der eigentlichen Flight Simulator Szene Multiplikatoren angeschrieben, ihre Ansichten Ã¼ber einen mÃ¶glichen Flugsimulator Nachfolger in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the Box fasst die Situation ganz gut zusammen. Demnach wurden vor allem auÃŸerhalb der eigentlichen Flight Simulator Szene Multiplikatoren angeschrieben, ihre Ansichten Ã¼ber einen mÃ¶glichen Flugsimulator Nachfolger in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lonepilot</title>
		<link>http://www.simflight.com/2009/06/17/ms-rumor-mill-turning-again/#comment-5095</link>
		<dc:creator>lonepilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that sh*t is giving me the creeps.... :&#124;&#124;
now I realize why aerosoft is investing on an alternate sim platform</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that sh*t is giving me the creeps&#8230;. <img src='http://www.simflight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> |<br />
now I realize why aerosoft is investing on an alternate sim platform</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Morwath</title>
		<link>http://www.simflight.com/2009/06/17/ms-rumor-mill-turning-again/#comment-5094</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Morwath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;sole function of making as much money as possible&quot;, as Madoff Chrysler, GM, Lehman Brothers and the like thought... :-) 
Anyway, &quot;some money&quot; is better than &quot;no money at all&quot;, because I don&#039;t believe a FSXbox or a FSLive! would live much long... simpilots will dive away, and XBox fans will ignore it either &quot;FS? No, not me! I am supposed to grag someone, not to learn how to fly an ILS approach, I left school, don&#039;t want to study more!&quot;
There are clever companies that keep on investing in niche products just because they shed a better light upon the company.
They could also up the price, I wouldn&#039;t mind to spend $150-200 for a good flightsim. But I won&#039;t spend even $30 for a stupid, limited one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;sole function of making as much money as possible&#8221;, as Madoff Chrysler, GM, Lehman Brothers and the like thought&#8230; <img src='http://www.simflight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Anyway, &#8220;some money&#8221; is better than &#8220;no money at all&#8221;, because I don&#8217;t believe a FSXbox or a FSLive! would live much long&#8230; simpilots will dive away, and XBox fans will ignore it either &#8220;FS? No, not me! I am supposed to grag someone, not to learn how to fly an ILS approach, I left school, don&#8217;t want to study more!&#8221;<br />
There are clever companies that keep on investing in niche products just because they shed a better light upon the company.<br />
They could also up the price, I wouldn&#8217;t mind to spend $150-200 for a good flightsim. But I won&#8217;t spend even $30 for a stupid, limited one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian P</title>
		<link>http://www.simflight.com/2009/06/17/ms-rumor-mill-turning-again/#comment-5082</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know many don&#039;t want to accept this, but MSFS is an extremely niche product. It makes money, yes, but compared to Gears of War 22 on XBox, it makes them a miniscule amount.

Microsoft are not a niche company. They&#039;re a commercial, shareholder owned, company with a sole function of making as much money as possible. If FS as we know it doesn&#039;t make the money their shareholders and managers think it should, then they have two options: kill it totally, or make it into something that generates more income. We won&#039;t like the result, because we want a niche product. The Xbox kiddies probably won&#039;t like it either, because they want Hawx or Gears of War, not a civilian flight sim.

However I don&#039;t think XPlane is the answer either - at least not until Mr. Meyer lets go of his attitude and grip, allowing other people to get in and finish the sim off. Right now it&#039;s his personal playground, not a viable sim.

However, do I think MS will listen to a word &quot;the community&quot; says? I suspect strongly that management only will if they hear what they want, which is that we&#039;ll all rush out and buy a console for the next sim incarnation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know many don&#8217;t want to accept this, but MSFS is an extremely niche product. It makes money, yes, but compared to Gears of War 22 on XBox, it makes them a miniscule amount.</p>
<p>Microsoft are not a niche company. They&#8217;re a commercial, shareholder owned, company with a sole function of making as much money as possible. If FS as we know it doesn&#8217;t make the money their shareholders and managers think it should, then they have two options: kill it totally, or make it into something that generates more income. We won&#8217;t like the result, because we want a niche product. The Xbox kiddies probably won&#8217;t like it either, because they want Hawx or Gears of War, not a civilian flight sim.</p>
<p>However I don&#8217;t think XPlane is the answer either &#8211; at least not until Mr. Meyer lets go of his attitude and grip, allowing other people to get in and finish the sim off. Right now it&#8217;s his personal playground, not a viable sim.</p>
<p>However, do I think MS will listen to a word &#8220;the community&#8221; says? I suspect strongly that management only will if they hear what they want, which is that we&#8217;ll all rush out and buy a console for the next sim incarnation.</p>
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		<title>By: John Smythe</title>
		<link>http://www.simflight.com/2009/06/17/ms-rumor-mill-turning-again/#comment-5079</link>
		<dc:creator>John Smythe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty obvious by the questions that MS wants to make a &quot;massively multiplayer online flying game&quot;. This is absolutely ridiculous. The market appeal of FS was and continues to be the open nature of it-- the ability for the individual to tailor the program to suit his needs and desires. With this set up, we&#039;ll have to log into a &quot;persistant world&quot; that we cannot change to our tastes. Don&#039;t like the low-rez textures? Tough. Don&#039;t like the low-rez mesh? Tough.

Vatsim will be rendered obsolete in terms of a new flight simulation platform from MS, though I imagine they&#039;ll continue a very healthy existence on FSX and FS9 when this atrocity is made public. 

If this is the direction for flight simulation from MS, then I just might consider X-plane, with the hope that if many other MSFS ex-pats switch over, the sim will stabilize and allow for the same scope and depth of addons FS* currently enjoys. 

I hate sounding like a bitter old coot, but this just makes me madder&#039;n hell. I&#039;d rather MS just leave flight simulation alone if they want to go in this direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty obvious by the questions that MS wants to make a &#8220;massively multiplayer online flying game&#8221;. This is absolutely ridiculous. The market appeal of FS was and continues to be the open nature of it&#8211; the ability for the individual to tailor the program to suit his needs and desires. With this set up, we&#8217;ll have to log into a &#8220;persistant world&#8221; that we cannot change to our tastes. Don&#8217;t like the low-rez textures? Tough. Don&#8217;t like the low-rez mesh? Tough.</p>
<p>Vatsim will be rendered obsolete in terms of a new flight simulation platform from MS, though I imagine they&#8217;ll continue a very healthy existence on FSX and FS9 when this atrocity is made public. </p>
<p>If this is the direction for flight simulation from MS, then I just might consider X-plane, with the hope that if many other MSFS ex-pats switch over, the sim will stabilize and allow for the same scope and depth of addons FS* currently enjoys. </p>
<p>I hate sounding like a bitter old coot, but this just makes me madder&#8217;n hell. I&#8217;d rather MS just leave flight simulation alone if they want to go in this direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
		<link>http://www.simflight.com/2009/06/17/ms-rumor-mill-turning-again/#comment-5073</link>
		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Not mentioning that with FSX , MS tried to introduce some action in the game through the missions etc with a tentative to hit a wider market but still , FS was a technical simulator where &quot;nothing happens&quot; and &quot;boring&quot; for casual action gamers...

Tom Clancy&#039;s HAWK might be an inspiration for MS to make a straight forward arcadish version... I am just guessing here...

In any case, I think MS will get back with something...

Michel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Not mentioning that with FSX , MS tried to introduce some action in the game through the missions etc with a tentative to hit a wider market but still , FS was a technical simulator where &#8220;nothing happens&#8221; and &#8220;boring&#8221; for casual action gamers&#8230;</p>
<p>Tom Clancy&#8217;s HAWK might be an inspiration for MS to make a straight forward arcadish version&#8230; I am just guessing here&#8230;</p>
<p>In any case, I think MS will get back with something&#8230;</p>
<p>Michel</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
		<link>http://www.simflight.com/2009/06/17/ms-rumor-mill-turning-again/#comment-5072</link>
		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MS knows that if it directs such a survey to the niche market of flight simmers it will certainly get a well known response that MS knows already (Make this flight sim a technical simulator not a game).

What MS wants is the global market, the arcade and &quot;action now&quot; typoe of market and public. Yet MSFS never made it to the minds of such gamers...

I have the feeling they will go into a Live version or a console or both. Less technical yet less pressure on MS shoulders from us, the aviation lovers / FS community ;)

Cheers
Michel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MS knows that if it directs such a survey to the niche market of flight simmers it will certainly get a well known response that MS knows already (Make this flight sim a technical simulator not a game).</p>
<p>What MS wants is the global market, the arcade and &#8220;action now&#8221; typoe of market and public. Yet MSFS never made it to the minds of such gamers&#8230;</p>
<p>I have the feeling they will go into a Live version or a console or both. Less technical yet less pressure on MS shoulders from us, the aviation lovers / FS community <img src='http://www.simflight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Michel</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://www.simflight.com/2009/06/17/ms-rumor-mill-turning-again/#comment-5071</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ermmmm........what does NDA stand for? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ermmmm&#8230;&#8230;..what does NDA stand for? <img src='http://www.simflight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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